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Hello All-
These are wonderful little hats- beautiful examples of the art. I am really drawn to the archetypal spiral motifs and since first seeing panels with these designs in China have been fascinated with the artful ways in which color is used with this pattern, giving it both a modern and an ancient feel. The second hat is quite enigmatic with the little photograph sewn in- probably the father, and do I detect the bill of a hat, military perhaps? Fascinating...

I, too have been looking thru my books- mainly the Yi book on costumes and adornments and the baby carrier book and tho I find similar work and motifs in the Yi book, I think that both the first hat and the 'Tibetan' hat are probably from Jian-He County in Guizhou Province, as Andrew suggested. I also have some coats on my website from this area and with the spiral motif and in similar colors (, especially TACH194). Also I don't recall seeing the little silver deity figures on things Tibetan, but I don't know much about things Tibetan... I do see them a lot in Guizhou.

Thanks Monique for taking the time to share these charming little hats. Now Pamela has some work to do compiling these and the sweet little hats from the Gejia, plus any previous ones.


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Hello!
First of all I wish everybody a happy and healthy New Year!
Yesterday evening I have taken a look at the hats we were studying at. With the information Susan had given I have chosen three hats with similar spiral decorations. I will put a picture of the third hat on the web today. When I look at the decorations especially the two first ones have the same pattern as the coat from Susan which was from Jian He county. The third ones has the same idea pattern. Because I cannot find any pictures to compare the Nuosu style clothing with the hats I think more about a Miao origin. The hats 1949 and 1951 were sold to me as Tibetan hats, but you never know................... Susan mentioned that she never has seen Tibetan hats with the metal decorations. Isn't internet a great way to exchange information!!!!!!!!
Again a step closer to solving the UFO mysterie!


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I think that the first hat that Monique posted is really fascinating. I have not seen such an interesting sculptured style before. We have been seeing it in instalments and quite small. Forgive me if I take the liberty to post all three photos together - for impact - and slightly larger.

Now having seen the top, or 'crown' of the hat it is amazing to see how similar it is to the couple of Miao jackets on Susan Stem's site.

Monique, is the hat quite hard and stiff almost like a helmet?

I have been enlarging the other 'Tibetan' hats and the deity charms are interesting. They do not seem to be the same as the mass produced ones today. The whorls on the crown on the 1949 hat are very similar to the crown of the first hat. They do look like Miao hats to me...

Thanks, Monique, some interesting textiles!


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Hi Pamela,

Thanks for putting all three pictures together. I also have them together on my computer, because I think it gives a nice overview.
The top of the hat is a a little bit stiff/ padded but not really. The sides are soft. I also think it is a fascinating little hat! This week I will meet a friend who also is familiar with oriental textiles and I also will meet Ien Rappoldt, a Dutch lady who has written the book: "Woven stories." The culture of the Miao in China. Let's see what they can confirm the Miao story.


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