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Many thanks for the details of the babycarrier. I am sending all the photos to Gina. I spoke to her yesterday on the telephone and she said that she would be happy to have a look at them.

I have been having a hunt in my references since getting back home but no luck so far!

Following on from your reference to Lao-Han here are a couple of links to some photos of Lao-Han woman in two different Miao villages in Guizhou. Unfortunately not a baby carrier in sight!

http://www.tribaltextiles.info/Gallerie ... /DLE12.htm
http://www.tribaltextiles.info/Gallerie ... uang34.htm

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Thanks for posting larger photos of the center square. I now think the square is also an example of Miao embroidery. There are some motifs which are charactericly Miao: flowers, birds, among others, and their placement on the textile. The motifs are similar to that found on a baby's collar in my collection.

But of course, this still begs several questions: why this decoration, and why on this particular baby carrier?

I also need to amplify my comments on attribution, which seem to be misunderstood. My stance is simply: Mainland SEAsian textiles are characterised by a vast and vastly similar range of motif and design which also share a common structure throughout the weaving worlds of SEAsia.

Therefore, I feel that by checking the basics of a textile, many problems of attribution can be solved. Is it commercial or homespun? Natural or artifical dyes? An area of cross-cultural integration or relatively homogeneous? Innovative, or conservative? Idiosyncratic?

I hope these comments expand on my earlier remarks. After all, who doesn't love a mystery?

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Greetings Steven
I know that you have found the identity of this baby carrier - you had said that you have not seen another like it.
At there is a very similarly constructed piece although the central panel appears to be somewhat different. It is attributed to the Zhuang minority group too.
The website above is a rather frustrating one to use with links not working etc. However, if you use the top index links most of the time you will succeed!
Also do you have details of the book you mention? Bei Shan "Baby Carriers" (Guizhou People's Pub. House, 2002 & 2003) and ISBN?
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Iain,

Contact me through my personal email for info on Guizhou related books.
You can find my email on my website.


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For the bookaholics amongst forum members - and I fear several of us are so affected, as Iain the biologist said to me 'the virus is alive in a cooperative host' - could you please give the ISBN number? I had a search on the web and found at the White Lotus site http://www.thailine.com/lotus/lists/textiles.htm the book:
N2912 - Anon - US$125.00
GUI ZHOU SHAO SHU MIN ZU, BEI SHAN (BABY CARRIERS)
(Kunming, 2002 (Chinese text))
303 pp., illus. in col, 220 x 290 mm

Looking through my own library of Chinese language only books I have a two volume set on babycarriers. Perhaps this is the same? The only thing I can read is the ISBN number - so this would be very useful indeed.

Very many thanks

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Hello all.
I am sure that iain's baby carrier is from Zhuang People in Guangxi, China. More information please click:


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I am pleased to see that you, like me, like to tie up information on different threads by linking and cross-referencing. Many thanks and keep up the good work!!

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